So Dean now has the backing of two big unions. CLARK HAS LOST, FOOL. BE PREPARED TO VOTE FOR THE EXTREMIST THAT IS DEAN.
meanwhile i’ll watch on memorial day for the libertarian candidate, thank you very much.
I will vote for any democrat over Bush.
Except Lieberman.
or as the south calls him: Jew Jewberman.
The problem with Dean (and Clark, and to some extent the current president) is not that he’s an extremist, but that he’s not anything at all. It’s well-documented that he once supported raising the Social Security age, was fiscally responsible (although that may have just been because he was good at raising taxes), and enjoyed lukewarm support from the NRA for understanding that the overwhelming majority of evidence demonstrates that obeying the directives of the Second Amendment actually reduces the murder rate. Where are these positions now? The answer is nowhere. He’s given up the one thing that put him in a position to make a run for the presidency in the first place: rationality.
Ditto Clark, unless anyone here thinks that someone who criticizes the Bush administration for going into Iraq without a “plan” while at the same time advocating the use of federal funds to research something that is physically impossible is anything other than absolutely insane.
And, Aaron, I think it’s funny that the one Democrat you claim you wouldn’t vote for is the only one who has a shot at my vote. He’s the only one of the major Democratic candidates who has not lied, vacillated, or otherwise shifted his position to placate the rabid horde of liberals who wouldn’t understand incentives if they fell from the sky. Also, he seems to understand things like economics, at least to the extent that he opposes national health care and the insanity that is the Bush tax cuts.
That said, Libertarian?! Not only can they not win the election, but they can’t even find a competent candidate. I love Harry Browne just as much as the next gun-toting maniac, but there’s no way he could discharge the duties of the office. He’s a financial analyst, not a leader.
But he also enjoys banning video games and making TV more vanilla for young, virgin eyes and ears…because cartoon violence is what’s tearing our country apart…not social injustice, racial hatred and bigotry.
I don’t play that.
I also happen to disagree with his censorship positions, but at least he doesn’t have a different opinion about censorship every week.
because cartoon violence is what’s tearing our country apart…not social injustice, racial hatred and bigotry.
Who are you? Jesse Jackson? What racial hatred and bigotry is tearing the country apart? I’d say we’re looking pretty good. The only really threatening racism still around is perpetuated almost entirely by the Left, who insist that race is a salient feature of one’s character. And this is hardly the kind of racism that will topple civilization as we know it.
P.S. on “social injustice”: There’s no such thing as social justice - don’t be crazy. Justice is individual, as groups don’t have rights. This is all just nonsensical sociology-babble.
Texas border guards treating “brown” people like enemies of the state; Texaco executives caught on record declaring that black’s won’t find advancement in their company; assholes demanding the borders closed because THEM DAMN MEXICANS IS TAKIN OUR WORK; The Notre Dame Fighting Irish; plus people who say things like Jew Jewberman.
Whoever that would be…
And I’d argue that there is such a thing as social justice. Maybe not in the broad philosophical sense, but I think that people starving or not being cared for on some basic level is social injustice.
But then again, I still cut the loops on my plastic six pack holders…so what do I know?
So do I. Just like the Ninja Turtles taught me!
Anyway, I agree with Trot, I don’t want any damn Jew telling me what to do.
I only want a half-Jew. 3/4, at most.
At least Lieberman supports some sort of gay rights… And that puts him above Bush in my book, at least.
I really don’t see how he has a chance of winning, though. He would be crushed mercilessly for his stance on video games and television.
But truthfully, anyone has a chance at winning. It depends on each runner’s campaign strategy; most voters don’t really remember more than two or three things about each candidate, and the subjects we’re bringing up may get caught in the mix of things. Personally, I’m for Dean. Though I’m apparently way too liberal.
It’s been said before, but just to make sure: The libertarian party will not win, and with good reason.
You didn’t mean that, did you?
This constitutes the tearing-apart of the country? You’ll note that blacks find all sorts of advancement in other companies (like the United States government) and the borders are still porous enough to allow budget-busting numbers of illegal aliens to soak up public services in the great state that is California. No, I’d have to say all looks well.
And I’d argue that there is such a thing as social justice. Maybe not in the broad philosophical sense, but I think that people starving or not being cared for on some basic level is social injustice.
How is that not just lots of instances of regular old injustice? Also, you know I’m going to disagree on a basic level that people starving does not necessarily constitute injustice. Unless you think people who actively choose to starve (like fasters) or put themselves into a position in which they will be forced to starve are really being treated unjustly.
But then again, I still cut the loops on my plastic six pack holders…so what do I know?
I have no idea. I’m not even sure how this is relevant to anything.
Actually, the second part of this is somewhat false. Bush’s elimination of the death tax essentially provides for homosexuals to enjoy one of the most substantial benefits of marriage… even without actually having the ability to legally marry one another. However, you are correct that he opposes gay marriage (as does America, by the way).
But truthfully, anyone has a chance at winning.
I agree with Steve. This is wildly untrue.
Hey ho hey you wacky Mericans and your Merican politics, here’s a bit of foreign wisdom:
1- If you keep Bush, your economy will continue to plummet and your international approval rating will race it to the bottom. Vote for a crazed monkey, or something. Just go with the most popular choice against Bush even if you hate him, because at least he’ll be stuck with Bush’s mess. Even if you think he’s a huge sleazebag, at least then he won’t get re-elected and might even get impeached. Either way, with Bush gone, certain problems will clear out (or at least shift) and the democrats and republicans alike can start getting REAL candidates prepared for 2008.
2- At least TRY to vote for people against gun usage. I don’t care how much evidence you bring forth, I will always have the counter-point: Japan and Canada have lower crime and murder rates than the US of A. Now unless you’re willing to admit that Mooseland and Hentai Factory natives are inherently morally superior to you, I think it’s pretty obvious that the fact that both these countries forbid gun usage by civillians plays a big part in keeping them deliciously crime-free.
3- Get somebody who won’t make the rest of the world want to bomb you anymore. Oh sure, you’re all cocky with your huge, huge american army cocks, but if you lose the favor of every single country on earth (which by the way you’re doing right now), things will eventually turn quite ugly. France is particualrly pissed right now, and they have nukes.
4- Drink Canadian beer before voting.
France has nukes? Who allowed that? Somebody better take them away before they hurt themselves. Or Germany, that would be even worse.
Maybe from your perspective. But then again you’re not being hassled for driving at night because of your skin color, or denied mortages in suburbs because of your skin color…
How is that not just lots of instances of regular old injustice? Also, you know I’m going to disagree on a basic level that people starving does not necessarily constitute injustice. Unless you think people who actively choose to starve (like fasters) or put themselves into a position in which they will be forced to starve are really being treated unjustly.
I think the government should step in and force them to eat cakes. Hostess cakes. That’s why I’m voting for Little Debbie, who will start the Office of Homeland Deliciousness. Or Dean. Because he’s a good anti-Bush, and can actually speak in public and is intelligent. As opposed to Bush, who can’t speak off the cuff for shit. The verbal diarrhea that comes from that man’s mouth is amazing…
I have no idea. I’m not even sure how this is relevant to anything.
It’s relevant to those fishes and birds that get stuck in them!
Man, would I hate to see the U.S. economy continue to plummet to the tune of 7.2% growth per quater . . . that would blow. I mean, that’s a mess I’d hate to be stuck with.
2- At least TRY to vote for people against gun usage. I don’t care how much evidence you bring forth, I will always have the counter-point: Japan and Canada have lower crime and murder rates than the US of A. Now unless you’re willing to admit that Mooseland and Hentai Factory natives are inherently morally superior to you, I think it’s pretty obvious that the fact that both these countries forbid gun usage by civillians plays a big part in keeping them deliciously crime-free.
Your disdain for evidence is clear by virtue of your taking leftist positions; you really don’t need to tell us that you “don’t care how much evidence you bring forth.” However, for the others on this site who might care about those pesky little “facts”: you’re comparing apples to oranges. I’m sorry, but it’s just true. Brazil and Russia both have gun control that would make any Democrat proud, and their murder rates are much higher than that in the U.S. Relative murder rates and the relative strictness of gun control laws are simply not correlated in the way you would like them to be, and nor is there any reason to think that they would be. Further, within the United States you will find areas of loose gun control and low crime, and areas of high gun control and high murder rates. Washington, D.C. and Baltimore, for instance, have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. By Oblivion’s “logic,” there should be less murder in these cities than elsewhere. But . . . damn.
3- Get somebody who won’t make the rest of the world want to bomb you anymore. Oh sure, you’re all cocky with your huge, huge american army cocks, but if you lose the favor of every single country on earth (which by the way you’re doing right now), things will eventually turn quite ugly. France is particualrly pissed right now, and they have nukes.
France does not constitute the rest of the world. Further, France does not want to bomb us. Finally, the U.S. should never allow their foreign policy to be directed by French stupidity.
4- Drink Canadian beer before voting.
I would suggest waiting at least until after you had voted. Drinking Canadian beer could kill you.
If this was an example of “foreign wisdom,” total American disdain for the U.N. seems the best possible course.
Which plummeting? The largest growth in twenty years kind? Man, that DOES suck.
and your international approval rating will race it to the bottom.
Oh please. The international community acted like a bunch of impetuous children. I’m sorry that France was worried about their lucrative oil deals in Iraq and Russia was too busy reminiscing about when they used to murder dissenters by the millions, but God forbid anyone actually stand up and exercise some moral fiber.
at least he’ll be stuck with Bush’s mess.
Yeah, it’s a terrible mess. That 7.2/8.1 (I choose not to remember which) percent growth and the Afghanis preparing themselves to ratify a Constitution… God, what a bastard.
the democrats and republicans alike can start getting REAL candidates prepared for 2008.
Like Hillary Clinton? Gah! I can at least keep my fingers crossed for Jeb Bush and Bill Owens.
Japan and Canada have lower crime and murder rates than the US of A. Now unless you’re willing to admit that Mooseland and Hentai Factory natives are inherently morally superior to you, I think it’s pretty obvious that the fact that both these countries forbid gun usage by civillians plays a big part in keeping them deliciously crime-free.
Actually, this is the worst use of logic ever. The crime rates in Canada and Japan were drastically LOWER before gun control laws were implemented… and crime rates have RISEN drastically since those laws.
Get somebody who won’t make the rest of the world want to bomb you anymore.
Like Osama or Yasser Arafat?
if you lose the favor of every single country on earth (which by the way you’re doing right now)
EVERY single country? This sounds false to me.
France is particualrly pissed right now, and they have nukes.
The next time France presents a substantive moral reason for doing anything they do, I’ll be more willing to listen to their temper tantrums.
Yeah, which is a big step up from being killed for daring to set foot in the suburbs… Again, I’m not sure there’s any tearing…
Or Dean. Because he’s a good anti-Bush, and can actually speak in public and is intelligent. As opposed to Bush, who can’t speak off the cuff for shit. The verbal diarrhea that comes from that man’s mouth is amazing…
I love the ranting. Speaking of verbal diarrhea…
Well, at least he doesn’t say things like: “Fool me once…shame on…shame on…you? Fool me twice … … …ifooma won’t get fooled again.”
Really, that’s all I require from my presidential candidate.
Oh, and those who take wars one at a time, and don’t try to hold onto two sucky nations at once.
Well good thing you “rightists” always provide convincing evidence for your arguments, as opposed to us lefties. Mr. Hippo Critt, I salute you!
Also, I think that the reason why Japan and Canada have such low crime rates is not because of gun laws. I believe that the gun laws are in those countries came about because of the low crime rate, not the other way arround. People are generally more polite in Japan and Canada, so why would they want to shoot people in the face like us 'mericans do? I mean, how rude is that?
Well since we’ve finally managed to get out of the dot-com bomb, where everyone and their dogs invested in stocks that produced nothing, so the economy APPEARED good, bud was actually just superficial. Our economy is doing good.
Sweden (or one of those peaceful european nations) has the entire civilian population with a gun (government mandated, firing every month, and requiring military enrollment), and is very very peaceful. Look at the prohibition of alcohol, the same could happen for guns. I bet all those gangsters with automatic rifles got them from walmart, no wait… the black market, which will always exist.
The rest of the world hates us, except candadia and mexico, and anyone else who likes peace, people with their own opinions, and a non dictatorship hate us. Whatever.
I prefer IRISH BEER, like Guiness.